PCWN – 033 – Dr Bryan Gregor – The VetPodcast pt 2
Julie South: [00:00:00] [00:00:00] welcome to episode 33 of paws, claws, and wet noses. The veterinary sector podcast, celebrating all creatures great and small, and they’re fantabulous professionals who look after them all. I am your show host. Julie south. This is the second part of a two-part series with Dr. Bryan Gregor of the Vetpodcast.
[00:00:26] If you haven’t listened to the first part, then go back and listen to that because it gives you context for today. Part one was episode 32. This week, we start with Dr. Bryan talking a bit about his life as a veterinarian before he started podcasting, as well as getting a bit more geeky with podcasting and how that’s changed.
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[00:00:56] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:00:56] my father when he was a student in Glasgow. He said, if you want to be a [00:01:00] success in veterinary practice, just keep the bowels open and just arrested. God. Nutrition is not an opinion. It’s a science. They called me that weird herbal needle. That, and I, I just remember thinking. Well, I’m still gonna do it cause I know it works and I’ve got the research to back it from reminiscences of the real James Harriet son to P nutrition, to acupuncture the big podcast, discusses current animal health issues from around the world.
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[00:02:21] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:02:21] So originally from Christchurch study is we all did at Massey . So 82, I qualified back in the day we are 80% of the class was males , so it could put up class rugby teams in the skull cup , the older big school appreciate what I’m talking about at the end. So we went from there, always had plans to be DirecTV.
[00:02:43] And we time waiting for the right job to come up, picked up a job in the interim with a small animal practice in Christchurch, Purdie and Associates . So there’s a few nights. People recognize the Geoff Merhtens was the UN Puti, Hans Anderson from Halifax and Nelson. So it was a really good team [00:03:00] for young B2B to be working with.
[00:03:02] And, uh, A hundred percent small animal practice went from the up to Karen ethic to coastal visits and was a theory mix practitioner up the EDS haven’t taken. You’ve read that, which is what mindfulness too young. Fits as actually as to, you know, your first job I already can, should be in a medical practice and become a dedicate your skills up and the whole and the whole victory game.
[00:03:27] And was there for three years or so moved to Timaru. I haven’t got a small animal clinic. The hot, the original high field clinic means never lift. So you’re retired. Two years ago, a year and a half ago. So it was faced to November, I think, year before last. So just pre COVID. So that’s me in a nutshell.
[00:03:50] And now I’m podcasting and I can cheese and vegetable garden. Tell me about the cheese. [00:04:00] Do you grow your own milk? No, no, but we have got a, one of these theory farms just around the corner who have got the license for selling non pasteurized milk. So I don’t sell it. I can’t sell them. I haven’t done any licensing to do it, but, um, I just like it because it’s.
[00:04:22] It’s almost clinical, you know, you’ve got the heaviest of reality and your temperature and your times all the important. So it’s just funny. I’m getting quite good at it. Quite nice cheeses. So my plan once I finished here is to knock up a bunch of knock up a batch of fetus, so that will face nice.
[00:04:43] it’s quite good for experiment in today. So these are soft cheeses. Do you do hard cheeses as well? Not very well, but yeah, I, well, to be fair that most of the me that was partners in to, to dry, but I’m at a little Keystone with them, so that’s good. Do [00:05:00] you, you,
[00:05:00] Julie South: [00:05:00] you said that that cheese was clinical. How about winemaking?
[00:05:05] Have you tried? Wine-making.
[00:05:06] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:05:06] No. Yeah. So decider and we’ve got an orchard, so I make a bit of side too. Okay. Okay. And when you’re not making cheese, when you’re not making cider you’re fishing, what sort of fishing? Really? Trout and salmon. I mean, we’re on tomorrow. We’ve got the McKenzie country, which is, you know, some of the best fishing country, uh,
[00:05:32] Julie South: [00:05:32] after, after Taupo and Turangi..
[00:05:34] Yeah, maybe
[00:05:35] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:05:35] it might be, yes. I hit, hit, hit up country corner off big doing it, but a sea fishing list and mines as well. So yeah, it’s just living when you started as a veterinarian, when you graduated, you I’m sure that most, you know, most professionals do. This is how my life is going to be. Is. Did your plan [00:06:00] meet the actual, the few speed bumps in it?
[00:06:03] Yes, it did. I mean, my mind, my plan was to retire at 60, which I did. So the it’s ancient me now. Yeah, it did pretty well. And I achieved most of the things in mind professional career that I wanted to do. So, you know, obviously if the, if the profession and good hearts and. You know, I still a little bit involved, a little bit of involvement with it through mentor and in doing the podcast and, you know, still potent hit into the clinic every now and then.
[00:06:33] So yeah.
[00:06:34] Julie South: [00:06:34] Was it what you expected?
[00:06:37] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:06:37] I didn’t know what to expect. There’s a lot of young bits to it too. I mean, there, weren’t a lot of huge surprises in it, you know, just roll with the changes and yeah.
[00:06:50]Julie South: [00:06:50] Did you work overseas? Let’s let’s talk about podcasting, go back to podcasting with a view [00:07:00] for any, any veterinarian or veterinary nurse veneer professional listening right now who’s thinking, yeah, I can podcast.
[00:07:10] What would you say to them? Or I would say yes, you can.
[00:07:13] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:07:13] That is easy. And you can do it on an absolute sheer strength. The most microphones, I just started with some funding level. Microphone that plugs into the USB, but anybody can record what they want to do. There are a number of different forms that you can put the podcast app on.
[00:07:36] So basically what you do is you decide if you want to do a podcast, if you have got a microphone and a speaker, you can do a podcast. It doesn’t have to be a fish model time. It pays to have some sort of a program where you can eat it at is just fine. It’s all RVP used. So you can use that to, to eat it.
[00:08:00] [00:07:59] The podcast, find yourself, uh, a site to put it up on. There are a number of free sites. They’re a little bit limited in function. But while you’re getting your feet wet, it’s this the way to start. You don’t get much in the way of statistics. And you know, you’ve got quite a limit as to how much you can put out in basically a way, no way you go.
[00:08:22] It was not, we had to embed it. You’ll get that. You don’t know why you’re doing it and who your audience is going to be. So you can’t just do it because you might the sound of your own voice. You know, you’ve got to Haleigh, got to have a reason to do it. As far as recording goes with. And diffuse ACE we’re doing now.
[00:08:38] I mean, if you can do it on soon, but they, but they had a problem. I use now, like I said, this program called a score cast, which is not expensive per year. It’s a hundred and something dollars per year. And then you’ve got everything sitting online. What I like about these in score cast is they at each.
[00:09:00] [00:09:00] Person that’s talking, here’s their own conversation recorded independently online. So with me being in the country, if my internet gets a wee bit, shonky like the James Harriet discussion that at least the gone and the other readings recording is still fine. As long as your connection’s working, I can rerecord or I see it.
[00:09:21] And that’s the only one that I’ve lost. So programs like squad cast are really quite easy. I think I’ve got to. Yeah, they do. Yeah. I, I looked at squat cast and because I like what it does in the very first. Guest interview I had cause co squad cast is it won’t work on as it Firefox or Mozilla. Yeah. When we’re coming for a Fox and it’s a week, it’s a week, but shaky on iOS on the April Kia.
[00:09:52] Yeah. Yeah. And my, my guest was an apple guest and it just got too [00:10:00] hard. Yeah. I’ve had a few interviews with people where they have all stuff, but as long as I downloaded the crypt, the Chrome browser, it works fine. Listen, as we close witnesses, users, bus sprout, they have a free, and I’ll put all links that Brian and I are talking about here on the episode for this, the page for this episode, a bus sprout has a 90 day free.
[00:10:30] Free trial. If you decide not to continue, then all episodes are lost. But the, the cost, I think, per month starts at about six us per month. And then you just choose the hours, the number of hours that you want to, to upload each month. And in most of the, the. Podcast platforms. The hosting platforms have their own form of website integration, pretty basic, [00:11:00] but it’s the, uh, if you want so that you don’t need to create a separate website to connect it to
[00:11:08] Julie South: [00:11:08] Bryan, apart from knowing your, why, what other considerations would you take into account?
[00:11:15] How long does it take you to do a show from start to finish?
[00:11:21] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:11:21] A lot of it depends on how many items there are in the interview to be truthful, which does not mean a lot of the case theory on me. And, you know, to the point of distraction. So the. Pricey thought editing is the time it takes the, the long time the interviews themselves.
[00:11:43] I do a little bit of preparation. So that basically what I do is I will get in contact with them.
[00:11:52] Pass let’s do it. Let’s do a podcast. I will then send them a list of questions that we’re going to go through because [00:12:00] I’m not a tear about it. Vista could of journalists, you know, I’m, I’m a, I’m a vet who was interested in what other bits are doing if you like. So we’ll have a list of questions they can have there and put out on that as well, which is fine.
[00:12:14] We will have the interview, which my interviews tend to last probably 20 to 30 minutes, just because I’m a little bit lazy. So I’ll do a tweak 20 minutes, 20 to 30 minute interview. Download them. Eat at them. So what we’re half an hour or so, except for whatever research I have to do to get the emails out and get everything sorted up, sorted out, get the recording scheduler up and going.
[00:12:42] 20 minutes, half an hour for the interview and then maybe another hour or two to get the editing done. And then, I mean, these days, by the time you put it on the hosting site and you put it on Facebook and you put it on Instagram and put it online, then the Facebook [00:13:00] business managers and what the cooler, I think they might swap a wee bit easier because that will actually kill two birds with one stone.
[00:13:08] The problem that we all hit with Instagram is that you can’t actually put links up on Instagram. So I use that one of these link, I saw it said, bye, bye Dani theme thought slash fit podcast that people want to chase. So I’ve got everything and everything sitting in that site, but then, then it’s up and done and onto the next one.
[00:13:30] So it doesn’t take a heck of a long time to do it. It’s getting that original idea that they have down the pool to be at the text the most time, that thing. But no, I find these days that, you know, I keep, keep my eye on the veteran media and you see bits and pieces pop up and in a way you go and find a way that guilty of going back to some of my previous podcasts, especially in some online monotonous monologues and just rejecting them or that re recording them or just being in the, my pieces of the other quality.
[00:14:00] [00:13:59] So. That the, um, thing I spend quite a bit of time because I, I want my guests to sound amazing. I want people to be impressed by them, and I realized that it’s not always easy for people to. To talk without, um, like, you know, so I will go and I will remove, remove those from the conversation as well. Yeah.
[00:14:29] Yeah. That’s the main, it’s the main, but editing. I do, I do put filters across and, you know, sort of get a little bit throw to your and get less of the rumble and those sorts of things. And you know, you do often have them set a C wrong during an interview either. The wrong thing is seed or 10 tied or ahead.
[00:14:53] So last podcast, I think it was with the fish feed. She had her kept with it [00:15:00] and the cat keeps sitting on the bench in front of her, which according to Merl. So I lifted in there. I hate the type three Coulters than the yeah, because it was to the point of distraction, but it was still, it was quite cute.
[00:15:12] Me, the, some, some background noises.
[00:15:15] Julie South: [00:15:15] I don’t know whether you heard when we first started this. It’s absolutely chucking it down here. And the wonderful Waikato it’s very wet and I could, it was raining so much. I could hear the noise of the rain and I don’t think I’ll be able to edit that out.
[00:15:32] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:15:32] Not, I mean, we, we hit the same things with phonespaying off and, you know, I hit got cows and a paddock.
[00:15:39] Brian needs to that to the hen house or someone forgot to shut the, shut them before one of the podcasts that are recorded and it was chaos ammonium in the background. If you, that you listened to four or something, it’s just a little weak thing. The condition of it. Not that we need it today because we are in sunny CF Canterbury, brilliant sunny day.
[00:16:00] [00:16:00] Black. Yeah.
[00:16:01] Julie South: [00:16:01] Did you find audacity easy to learn
[00:16:06] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:16:06] because I’ve been using it for such a long time. It’s become second nature. It is a little bit fiddly just knowing that it’s the hardest, it’s easy to record. It’s the. Things what the maximum lean during tracks and again, all of the different filters and the equalizers and the things, you know, you’ve got music and a voiceover over it.
[00:16:31] Just how to use those, what sessions to quote, because there are millions of different combinations of settings that you can put on, but it’s where, again, the geek in me, you get onto YouTube and, you know, you find. What different people are doing and how it works, and you have a play and do a, a dummy recording and see how it goes.
[00:16:50] So you’ve got to have a, yeah, you got to have a go it’s it’s even if you only use it just as [00:17:00] you recording. Private game it’s it’s good enough. It’s fine.
[00:17:04] Julie South: [00:17:04] We use, we, I, I use audition, Adobe audition. And the only reason I use that was because when I first started podcasting, it was in a radio station and that was what they used.
[00:17:18] So that was all I knew. My husband knows how to drive or Audacity. I looked at it and it was as well. This doesn’t make sense. To me. So I don’t even go anywhere near or Audacity .
[00:17:31] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:17:31] I do know what an arm wave sound looks like, like be attained. In fact, that are pretty pretty quickly. The other one that we get is the calm and the tongue cluck aims that, that one’s easy.
[00:17:45] And. I can use the, you can use one of the filters to drop the noise reduction function, and basically to get that Sam and hot, the arms are a little bit harder because. Often [00:18:00] the, um, sound is this is mom and mom and you in that, taking these big hunks of the podcasts they app that they actually didn’t want to do.
[00:18:10] So those ones I go through manually and take each one out, but I tend to drive for the, for away, for on, on the audacity thing and then take them out. I don’t necessarily listen to the whole. Okay. I haven’t, I haven’t tried that. I have a couple of. Automatic pre pre-loaded favorites like DS. I will decrease it.
[00:18:33] Julie South: [00:18:33] The, the desk – the Rode Podcaster Pro that I record into has a whole bunch of preloaded filters and effects that it’s already doing. And the back end . I mean, it’s a, it creates I’m recording on zoom. Which is my backup file. I’m recording direct into this Rode Podcaster Pro . [00:19:00] I will import. That into which is the raw file and it’s dot wave.
[00:19:06] I will import that into audition. I edit. And then I remix again using the, the sound desk because I can just slide in and slide out and bring the music. And I’ve got your, your show pre-loaded into this. So I just bring, just press the button on it and suits it. And then I have. I have a finished product, which sounds all really complicated, but I’ve got it.
[00:19:33] I’ve got it working now so that I know what I’m doing for me. The biggest, the biggest time-suck would be making sure that I’ve got the marketing stuff. For each show that for each different platform, you know, what I put on Facebook is different to what I put on LinkedIn. And right now those are the only two digital spaces that, or social spaces that this goes [00:20:00] to as via Facebook, many different ways in Facebook, but via Facebook and via LinkedIn.
[00:20:07] Dr Bryan Gregor: [00:20:07] Yeah. I find Facebook a little bit interesting. I actually have got a reasonable number of Facebook followers. But the funny thing about it is that that’s something like. Oh, I can’t think, cause I keep her an Instagram post doc, but the other day, cause I crunched the figures. It’s something like 54% of the followers on Facebook are from Egypt of all places, but only 0.06% of the downloads in place are from Egypt.
[00:20:35] So I don’t know what the heck’s going on there. I’ll put a fake Instagram post up the other day for a police. Explain not sorry if I spoke, I stopped for us. Please explain if you remain checked. Why are you subscribing to the podcast on Facebook, but listening to the thing? Cause most of them, when you have to look at who they are, I must have visits.
[00:20:55] So I won’t say, yeah, I haven’t gone into that much [00:21:00] detail with this show because it’s still baby and our assets are social stats. That way aren’t big enough for Facebook to give us the backend data in a meaningful way. The, the other data that is handy to him. And I’m always quite common. Summit offers is the, the age and the gender.
[00:21:26] Yeah. Something like at least 50% of my listeners are aged between, I think it’s 18 and 25 or 18 and 28 in female, which is quite interesting. So once you get those kinds of foods, that’s when you can start targeting a little bit more, what you’re actually doing. So, you know, I would imagine that most of these people are either.
[00:21:51] Pay diners or fitness is a big peaks are Peck because the age is just a little bit early for them to be practice and [00:22:00] bit earrings. There have been a number of such some of the messages that don’t get enough from the students is quite a few bit students HD listen to the podcast as well. Not that I consider that on actually our teaching standards.
[00:22:14] So I have learned from listening to your, not that I could put anything into practice, but I’ve certainly learned a lot. Anything you specifically, I’m going to put all the links that we’ve talked about today on the show notes page so that they will link anything else you specifically want to say. No, I don’t think so.
[00:22:36] I mean, if people want to contact me about podcasting with any questions or Hanes or whatever, either through social media. So that’s just a big podcast. The TPO, D C a S T, or email me that email addresses the podcast. When we get email@example.com. So don’t be shy. I’m more than happy to talk podcasting with anybody.
[00:22:58] Make some [00:23:00] cheese and cheese here, max and cheese making Jesus. One of the things on my, my to do one of my bucket list. Yeah. Yeah, no, that’s fine. That’s fine. I was going to do it yesterday, hit that speed the day, doing that we’re in the country. So we’ve got one of these bars cycles, syrup systems, and all the drip lines got rocks in there yesterday, cleaning that the credit or the triple line.
[00:23:25] So it was going to be cheesemaking day, but I’ll get onto it. Thank you so much for making contact. Not a problem. Thanks for talking to me.
[00:23:40] Julie South: [00:23:40] Thank you, you for listening, as Bryan said, at the end of today’s show, if you’re thinking about starting your very own podcast, then he’s happy to chat with you. I’m also happy to help as well. If you are thinking of starting your own podcasting [00:24:00] show, please, please, please make it about something that interests you.
[00:24:06] If you’re going to podcast, it has to be on something that lights you up because creating a show really is a labor of love. It takes me hours to put a show together. I do it because I love it. I want to help to make a difference in people’s lives somehow. And this is how I, I like to think that I’m doing that.
[00:24:27] And sometimes believe me, it’s hard until you get a call or an email out of the blue from a listener. You have absolutely no idea where the anyone’s listening. It can feel like you’re talking to yourself and you’re in a vacuum. Life is too short to be doing things that you really don’t love. So please, if you’re thinking of podcasting, make sure your topic will get you out of bed early or keep you staying up late so that it gets to ear for me, the technical curve.
[00:24:58] The technical [00:25:00] learning curve was steep. I had no idea what I was doing. I remember being thrown into a radio recording studio way back then and told to play with the gear I had. Believe me. I had absolutely no idea what to start, where to start or what to do. So if podcasting is something that you think you’d like to try, then my suggestion would be to start digging around first on YouTube search for how toes on how to start a podcast.
[00:25:29] I know it’s pretty obvious, but you know, start at the beginning, go do some research study the technical aspects, the production that Brian and I talked about. First questions to ask him is, do you want to go solo or do you want to cohost with someone else? How much time do you have to commit to producing a show?
[00:25:50] And how much do you want to spend on your show? A podcast needs to be hosted somewhere so people can listen to it. You need a [00:26:00] podcast host, and that’s an audio only equivalent of YouTube for your podcast. There are hundreds of choices open to you? Brian uses PodOmatic. I use bus sprout most have free options that you can trial them with bus sprout has 90 days of free, a free hosting.
[00:26:20] Some others have seven others, 14 and some have 30. You really don’t want to have a free forever host though. And the reason for that is because you’ll have very little control, if any, over the advertisements that appear before, during, and after your show, just think about what YouTube throws up in the way of advertisements to the videos that you watch.
[00:26:46] If you opt for a totally free podcast host, you’ll get adverts put into your show as well. Some that might not even work for your audience. So you have to have a hosting [00:27:00] budget next, your need to have some kind of audio editing software that’s to record on and edit in afterwards. I really do recommend that you spend time editing your show.
[00:27:13] There are plenty of shows where people just record and throw it up. I don’t know how successful they are. But you want to respect, this is life. According to Julie, you want to respect your listeners’ time and leaving in a whole bunch of drivel, lots of ums and AHS, and you knows and likes, you know, like they just detract from what people are saying from what your audience is listening to.
[00:27:37] You need to learn how to do that. So spend time studying how to use an audio software program. Brian uses or Udacity. It’s open source and it’s free. I use or Doby audition, which is what lots of radio stations use. And it has a monthly fee. The only reason that I use audition is because that’s what [00:28:00] I learned to use at the radio station or those years bank.
[00:28:04] I’ve played around an audacity a few times. But I haven’t persevered, climbing the new learning curve. I know that lots of podcasters who do use audacity, like Brian say as a great free tour. They’d love it. I also recommend that you invest in a really good podcasting mic for me. I couldn’t believe the jump and the sound quality when I went to the mic that I have now.
[00:28:31] I use a road XLR pod, Mike, as plugged into a road podcast, approa sound Dick. Like I said, if you’re thinking of starting your own podcast, that I’m happy to chat, to recommend and to share my experiences. So please feel free to get in touch firstname.lastname@example.org dot INSEAD. Coming up in future episodes of paws, claws, and Whit noses.
[00:28:57] We’ve got Dr. Fiona SM of companion [00:29:00] animals, New Zealand talking about microchip myth-busting in care management, improving the welfare of cats, humans, and the environment. And also about the advances that have been made in facial recognition in animals. We have Janet Netta of smart money advice, a woman who’s in her happy place when she’s helping Kiwis, reduce the debt and improve their wealth.
[00:29:25] And during lockdown last year, licensed immigration consultant, Katie Armstrong, and I co-hosted a webinar on what was happening when the border and the border was. Closed and immigration things started getting a bit sort of peer shaped. Well, we’re planning another catch-up. So stay tuned for that as well.
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